School District Cancels Graduation Prayer
Prayer At Graduation
An official prayer is removed from a district's graduation, but could students lead the prayer, instead?
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GETTING ANSWERS: An official prayer is removed from a district’s graduation, but could students lead the prayer instead?
Published: May 13, 2009
Updated: May 13, 2009
ROSS COUNTY, Ohio—A local school district has decided it will take a prayer out of its graduation ceremony.
It has been a long-standing tradition for Southeastern High School to invite clergy to graduation and offer a prayer.
Faced with a complaint from a high-school senior and potential legal action, Southeastern Local School District Superintendent Brian Justice told NBC 4 Wednesday afternoon the district will not include a school-sponsored prayer in next week’s graduation ceremony.
“I can’t understand why anyone wouldn’t want prayer,” Justice said.
Southeastern High School student Jacob Davis enlisted the help of an attorney from the group Americans United for the Separation of Church and State in asking the prayer be removed.
Justice said that after consulting with a school-district attorney, he had no choice but to follow the law and remove the traditional prayer from the ceremony.
In its place, Justice said one or two students will be selected to give opening and closing remarks, leaving open the possibility that a student could lead a prayer without direction from the school or district.
When I asked Justice why it took the district 17 years to adhere to the Supreme Court’s ruling, he said: “It’s never been brought to our attention.”
“The fact that we had prayer for 16 years and it’s against the law, not knowingly doing it, but at the same time I don’t think it hurt anybody. I think prayer is good,” Justice said.
“It’s pushing Christianity on us, and it’s just uncomfortable for everybody. I don’t think it should be there,” Jacob said Tuesday.
According to Justice, Jacob became the first to publicly question the prayer last month when he called for the prayer to be replaced with a moment of silence.
“It kind of angers me that in 1992, almost 20 years ago, it was said that any prayer at graduation, no matter the content, was unconstitutional. And it still goes on,” Jacob said Tuesday.
“To me, we weren’t violating anything because we weren’t telling you who to pray to or who not to pray to. I think it’s sad that we live in a country based on God and that’s how we established this country, and now we can’t do that,” Justice said.
Justice, a practicing Christian, who also identifies himself as a preacher, said Jacob never came to him or to Southeastern’s principal with his concerns.
But once he learned of those concerns, he had to act.
In its 1992 ruling, the U.S. Supreme Court said public schools cannot invite religious authority figures to deliver a prayer at graduation ceremonies. The ruling did not prohibit student-led prayer
The American Civil Liberties Union said all prayer in graduation ceremonies is unconstitutional, but Justice said his understanding of the Supreme Court’s ruling is the school cannot direct students into prayer.
As for student speakers who take it upon themselves to pray, “If a student breaks out into prayer, it’s not because it’s directed from this school,” Justice said.
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“I can’t understand why anyone wouldn’t want prayer,” Justice said.
I can explain why, Superintendant: It’s because some of us don’t indulge in idiotic fantasies about magical, invisible friends. We’re called grown-ups. Don’t you want to encourage the students to think like adults? Or would you rather they think like you, which is to say, like a spoiled four-year-old?
And once again, I repeat - what choice does one have but to spend the money that they have? Is there money available that doesn’t have “god” on it? It’s not like there’s “god” and “no god” money available. And as to the Pledge of Allegience…the original wording, by Francis Bellamy, a Christian Socialist, was: ‘I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.‘ It was written in 1892. In 1924, against the authors wishes, the words were changed to ‘the Flag of the United States of America.‘ Congress added the words “under God” in 1954 after a campaing by the Knights of Columbus, prompted by the “red scare”. So, the word “God” was added because of people who were instantly suspicious if the word was NOT included.
DABROAD: I never mentioned anything regarding a “Christian” god, I simply just said God. Which meant god in general, any god. You are the one that inserted “Christian”. I said some are offended by the mention of God, meaning regardless of who your god is. I will never nor have I ever disrespected anyone’s religion, because we are free to believe in who we want. I was only making an observation that some people hear the word god and they are instantly offended, but yet spending money with god written on it is ok.
Uh, “ Patriots “, we have no choice BUT to spend money with the word “God” on it. And why do people think that because we don’t believe in the Christian god we don’t believe in any gods? Some of us believe in MANY gods. Some of us believe that all gods are part of the same supreme force. Some of us believe that it’s all the same god with different names. You think we’re wrong about the nature of god? Well, many of us think that some Christians’ belief that their god is the only one and all others are demons or false gods is wrong.
I just read “brittanywillis” post. If this is an example of how the Christian students are writing, you’d better start praying. Learn to use punctuation and capitals, hon.
Nobody is stopping anyone from praying. But the school district cannot appoint a religious figure to speak, as it then gives that person’s religion an air of authority that it does not have.
You say that you LET atheists and “other religions” speak. Mighty white of you. It’s easy to be arrogant when you are in the majority. But the world is changing. Populations are moving, shifting. Travel is easier; almost nowhere is really that remote anymore. You might very well end up in a place where you are not in the majority. If that happens, remember how you treated those in the minority. I’m sure that you would gladly stand silently, or leave the room, when a religious leader of a faith that may be diametrically opposed to Christianity gives an offical prayer at graduation, if the majority of students adhere to that faith.
I am so tired of this argument! You know while we’re at it we should remove the pledge of allegiance because it says god, oh and definitely burn all of the money because it says god too! As many people that are offended by the even mention of “god” they sure don’t have a problem spending money that references god!! Gotta love those hypocrites!!
Just do a stupid moment of silence so that everyone can pray to whatever god, universe, or tree that they want to and move on!
I think it is about the time this school distrct is following the Supreme Court’s ruling. This ruling was long over due. My mom went to public school in Columbus. She graduated in the early 60’s. She has told me about starting her school day with prayer, but she also mentioned a number of students that did not participate in the prayer because of THEIR religion. These were grade school children that were forced to appear different from their friends and classmates. Talk about uncomfortable. I wonder how many of these Christian people wanting a prayer would feel if a Catholic Priest (Priests are rarely invited to perform a prayer in public) started and ended a group prayer with the Sign of the Cross or a Jewish Rabi led the prayer in Hebrew? Catholicism is a Christian religion that many “Christians” wish not to recognize. As a Christian/Catholic, I was taught tolerance. A moment of silence is a compromise. My suggestion is to do neither a moment of silence or prayer. I would also encourage the HS students of the graduating class not to place their classmates in an awkward position by leading a prayer. Graduation is a special time for ALL. It should be remembered fondly. I think it is time for all of us to let these young people get on with a graduation ceremony they can all remember with fondness. I think it is safe to say that it will not matter what is said on this website. The district will not be changing it’s mind. Especially, since it is finally following the law. I hope any other public school districts that might still be considering a prayer during comencement will not have this as part of their ceremony. Start a new tradition- There are numerous poems and speeches that could be spoken. Do you know what I remember from my HS Graduation Ceremony? Not the prayers (I graduated in 89 from Public School. So we had a prayer at the beginning and end of comencement.), student speeches, the principal’s speech, or any other person’s speech. I remember walking across the stage and receiving my diploma with friends and family watching. That is all that really matters at a commencement ceremony. That feeling of accomplishment that everyone should feel.
Jacob Davis is a freedom fighter, resisting the Christian Taliban so the rest of us can live our lives free of the tyranny of some phony “God”. I feel that he will achieve much more in his life.
Thank you, Jacob!
I am proud to say that I graduated from S.E. and that my child is also a student there. When I graduated there was a prayer said it was done and over with in seconds. Had he not wanted to pray all he really needed to do was get up and leave. When the prayer was over he could come back in. They may have violated the law however it must not have bothered anyone else because this is the FIRST that anyone has ever mentioned. I hope that at graduation next weekend someone gets up and starts praying and hopefully everyone joins in!!! I never felt pressured by thinking that Christanity was being forced on us. That is a part of a tradition that has now been taking away from us. I saw the prayer being nothing more than a congratulations and best wishes in the future. I hope that Jacobs realizes what he has done. I hope he is happy he wanted 15 minutes of fame and now he got it. What do his parents think about all of this? When he has children hopefully he will realize just how “petty” this truthfully was..
I think this example from Benjamin Franklin, ironically one of the most non-religious of the founding fathers, is very telling:
Benjamin Franklin delivered this famous speech, asking that the Convention begin each day’s session with prayers, at a particularly contentious period, when it appeared that the Convention might break up over its failure to resolve the dispute between the large and small states over representation in the new government. The eighty one year old Franklin asserted that “the longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this Truth—that God governs in the Affairs of Men.“ “I also believe,“ Franklin continued, that “without his concurring Aid, we shall succeed in this political Building no better than the Builders of Babel.“



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