Struggling Ohio Opens Doors To Casinos

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COLUMBUS, Ohio—Ohio voters hit hard by the economic downturn have approved casinos on the fifth try by gambling supporters in the past two decades.

Tuesday’s vote is a significant victory for Penn National Gaming Inc. and Cleveland Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert.

They spent nearly $35 million to promote four casinos in Columbus, Cleveland, Cincinnati and Toledo.

Unemployment in Ohio has topped 10 percent. A study commissioned by the campaign predicted nearly 40,000 jobs and $4 billion in economic impact.

Voters approved amending the Ohio Constitution with details on where casinos could be built and how to distribute generated tax revenues to various agencies.

With 91 percent of precincts reporting, the question passed 53 percent to 47 percent.

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Flag Comment Posted by thalguy on November 11, 2009 at 11:11 am

Really???,

You seem to think that legalizing something brings less control to it, not more.

I do think heroin, prostitution, and gambling should be legal.  Why?  Because it is proven, around the world, that legalizing, regulating, and taxing these industries, industries which exist no matter the legal status, prevents harm.

You don’t want to have gambling because some people might get addicted.  From what I’ve read, gambling addiction affects 6% of gamblers.  You think those addicted aren’t going to gamble online, buy lottery tickets, use a bookie, go online and bet, or call vegas and place a bet?  You are willing to let the 6% of people dictate policy for all?

Same with drug legalization,  the facts are numerous and easy to read.  Our prohibition has done nothing to lower drug use in this country.  Programs like D.A.R.E. have actually increased drug use.  Compare that to Portugal, where all drugs are decriminalized, and in 6 years they have shown a dramatic decrease in abuse, overdoses, and blood borne illnesses.

The same is said of prostitution.  Compare the prostitutes that work at the legal brothels in Reno to those that walk the streets of Columbus.  Which girls aren’t getting beaten?  Which girls are being checked regularly for diseases?  Which girls have a safe work environment? 

I am not willing to surrender my choices as an adult because a small percentage of people abuse something.  If that were the case, we’d still have alcohol prohibition, because alcohol is directly responsible for close to $200 billion in annual damages, and is a significant factor in all types of violent crimes. 

What about tobacco?  It kills 450,000 plus Americans annually, cost billions of dollars in damages to businesses, increases the cost of health care, and has an extremely negative effect on the non-smokers who sit around smoking, and yet it is still legal.

The government has stripped our rights away and told us that it was for our own good, when you look at the results this, its plain to see that no, it has not beeen good for us, and we have certainly not benefited.  Instead we have 25% of the world’s entire prison population.  Our prisons are overcrowded and we end up releasing violent criminals to lock up people guilty of selling or using drugs.

This nanny state will be the downfall of society.

Flag Comment Posted by Europa on November 07, 2009 at 6:00 am

I personally can’t wait for vacationers to drop tons of money to come visit Cow Town USA and play the slots! The atmosphere is so…..well, we have a river, right? And corn, and soybeans, um, and cows!

Flag Comment Posted by Bellrides on November 06, 2009 at 2:33 pm

Yay casinos!!!! Kinda funny for you ney sayers. I’ve been to Vegas and Atlantic city a thousand times and have no addiction problems, break the law, rape pillage or steal. I have a very healthy relationship with my wife and family. Judging by some of your comments this is not possible. Kinda funny all of our friends like to gamble and are pretty much in the same boat. Sure I’ve spent thousands gambling but I would rather give a big tip when I hit to a fellow ohioan than anyone else. I’m also very happy for Bob in “anywhere” Ohio that will soon have a job and be able to pay his mortgage. Way to go “lady that has expendable cash” , likes poker and helps Bob pay his mortgage. By the way, anything under 16 the dealer has to hit, just incase you wanted step off the soapbox and pick up some cards. Happy winnings!

Flag Comment Posted by Dave in GC on November 05, 2009 at 1:20 pm

My parents live in central IN and could recite word for word the same rhetoric we had to listen to before voting on Issue 3. “people are leaving our state to gamble in MI, WVA, KY” “we will collect tax money from these casinos”. The same bill of goods our state used to sell us the lottery, years ago. Remember?

Indiana caved in and voted for the same package, allowed the casinos to be built, all in an effort to keep money “in the state.“

Two years later, the casinos aren’t earning the amount they projected during the campaign. Their solution? Hit the voters again, this time with “please legalize video gambling, this will help the casinos make up the revenue they lost….“

Once you invite the monster into your neighborhood, you agree to pay its huge grocery bill. We the tax payers will be not only sustaining this casino, but subsidizing once they fall short of their projected earnings.

Flag Comment Posted by really?? on November 05, 2009 at 9:08 am

While you’ve made quite the case for your stances, it seems apparent you’ve completely missed my point. How you actually feel about these issues is irrelevent. I only used them as filler in order to show the harm in following your “You can’t save everyone, there’s no point” argument. It could have been any political hot topic and essentially it would have amounted to the same thing. It doesn’t matter that we can’t fix everything and save everyone, we still HAVE to try. Imagine if firefighters bought into the notion that you can’t save everyone in that building so why try saving any?

I find your Libertarian view admirable. I wish I trusted that people where inherently responsible enough to make the best choices for themselves and our country as a collective. I don’t. I believe that in many cases what you do with you life affects my life and those lives in your family and community and nation. You become addicted to gambling, squander away your money and then have to file bankruptcy. You get sick or break a bone and have to go the emergency room. You have no money, so guess who has to pay that bill? Not you! Or take into consideration if there are kids involved. Who gets to pay for their clothes and supplies for school when their parent has lost every dime? Not the parent! Addictions cost us; Us the extended family, us the tax payers, us the non-profit community organizations, us the local church memebers. We are affected by the poor judgement and addictions of the individual. So in this case, it is as much a social justice issue, out of sympathy for the addicted and the victims as it is preventing myself from having to help those who could otherwise avoid needing that assistance. Even if it is just a handful out of the bunch, it’s worth doing.

Flag Comment Posted by jaguarzone on November 04, 2009 at 5:19 pm

Really, um, those are much different. See, as I said before, human trafficking is generally done against the will of the person being trafficked. Thus, that’s impeding on their inalienable rights, which means it should stay illegal. The person has not given consent and thus is doing it against their will. Now the heroin and the prostitution, since you love to think that I’m the one always bringing it up how it should be legal, yet I haven’t, we’ll talk about it. Ok for starters, I’m a libertarian. Those issues have nothing to do with the government, so the government generally should butt out. I can understand the concern, but if they give guidelines on proper health care to use the drugs or to be a prostitute, I’m not going to complain. As it stands, I feel they should currently be illegal because there are no safety procedures involved. The way people go about it spreads diseases and illnesses and is quite unhealthy. Now, if they could provide guidelines for safety and what not, I’m not against it. Will I ever do heroin or pay a prostitute for services, no, but that’s because I have no need for it. If you want to put it in your body, I’m not going to stop you, but when you start affecting the lives of others by pressure or side effects, that’s when I’ll suggest treatment. When monitored carefully, there’s no reason to tell someone they can’t do it. Both crimes are mostly victimless crimes. With the exception of a heroin addict that is desperate for his/her next fix. Now, since all you are probably going to be able to understand is the fact that I’m approving drug use, you may just bypass every part I said about safety and guidelines and go straight for the moral issue of the “Christian Right”. Well, not all of us believe in that ideology and personally, I think it’s a load of crock. But that’s my opinion and I’m entitled to it. So let’s see what lies you try and say came out of my mouth this time.

Flag Comment Posted by really?? on November 04, 2009 at 4:27 pm

Then by your logic, heroin, prostitution, and human trafficking should be legal because we are powerless to stop them? No, you’re right, we can’t save everyone. But we are a much better country for trying to, one case at a time.

Flag Comment Posted by jaguarzone on November 04, 2009 at 4:13 pm

Really, I don’t think you’re getting the picture. You aren’t Superman, Wonder Woman, or any other super hero. You can’t save everyone, there’s no point to it. Anything on this earth can easily become an addiction, ANYTHING. The most common addiction that often causes us the most harm is love. Yes love. Think about it, most of us would do anything for the ones we love, and if something devastating happens to that love, some are willing to take their life to end the “pain” of it. You can’t save everyone in that situation, some just can’t be saved. You don’t see anyone stopping people from falling in love to protect them, and if you do it’s a rare case of being over-protective. All of us should not be punished for the actions of one, simple as that.

Flag Comment Posted by really?? on November 04, 2009 at 3:57 pm

Right, but we regulate some of these things, and rightfully so. There’s no harm in moderately and fairly trying to stop the abuse where we can, is there? It may be nothing more but a drop in the bucket but trying to make the world a better place is what keeps our heads above water as individuals.

Flag Comment Posted by Patriots on November 04, 2009 at 3:52 pm

Again, all I can say is that it doesn’t matter what it is, somewhere, someone is going to abuse it and/or can get addicted. cold medicine, pain killers, welfare, alcohol, gambling, sex, video games, shopping, disability, and the list can go on forever.

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